Google tells me that both 'legumes' and 'vegetais' mean 'vegetables'.
Can anyone give me a little more detail on their meanings and the right contexts to use them in?
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Hello Kriss, this is a very good question! I edited your question to try to improve it; I changed the title and the content a bit. If you prefer the previous version, you can always check the revision history for your question and rollback :) to your original version.– ANevesApr 9, 2020 at 12:02
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tl;dr — "vegetal" is a vegetable; "legume" is a vegetable from horticulture.
"Vegetal"
"Vegetal" means vegetable.
It is the same word as in English.
This word has a precise definition, and its common use matches the scientific definition.
Trees, shrubs, grasses, they are all vegetables.
The Priberam dictionary defines it as:
ve·ge·tal
adjectivo de dois géneros
- Relativo às plantas.
substantivo masculino
Árvore; planta. [Tree; plant]
Terra proveniente das decomposições vegetais. = HÚMUS
"vegetal", in Dicionário Priberam da Língua Portuguesa [online], 2008-2020, https://dicionario.priberam.org/vegetal [visited in 09-04-2020].
"Legume"
"Legume" is a common word for an horticulture produce.
It's a fuzzy word with a more fluid meaning.
It's the name in the supermarket for "fruits and vegetables": "frutas e legumes".
The root of the word "legume" is the same word as the root for the English word "legume" (pt: leguminosa).
The Priberam dictionary defines it as:
le·gu·me
substantivo masculino
Grão das plantas faseoláceas.
[Botânica] Planta hortense que dá vagem.
Produto da horticultura.
Hortaliça.
"legume", in Dicionário Priberam da Língua Portuguesa [online], 2008-2020, https://dicionario.priberam.org/legume [visited 09-04-2020].
I would translate that as:
Grain from the Fabaceae family. ("Phaseollaceae"? Just... yeah, ignore that.)
[Botanic] Horticultural plant that yields pods.
Horticulture produce.
Edible greenery produce from horticulture.
Kale, broad-beans, carrots, tomato, cucumber, bell-pepper, are "legumes": horticulture products.
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Tangent: the tomato and the cucumber are legumes (vegetables), not frutas (fruits)... but they're frutos. Fruta is a common word defined by daily usage, and fruto is a scientific word with a strict definition; so a melon is both fruto and fruta; but pumpkin is fruto and not fruta but legume.– ANevesApr 9, 2020 at 11:57
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I can agree to put the lemon next to the other citrus, which are fruits; but I don't find any dictionary evidence that is is fruta. I will replace it with pumpkin or cucumber, thank you for pointing out the weak example.– ANevesApr 10, 2020 at 2:39
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«also "fruta" is simply an edible "fruto"» With that I don't agree. A lot of "legumes" are edible fruit, and they're not considered "fruta"; doesn't that show that the definition is not strict? Pumpkin, cucumber, tomato, they're edible fruits but not fruta, don't you agree?... this is a very interesting theme of discussion. : )– ANevesApr 10, 2020 at 2:48
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1@stafusa, I don't think it's a duplicate. And I would be glad to see more responses here; go ahead and post one! :) For a languages site, even if the content itself is the same, in my opinion a different presentation is enough to justify a new answer - and I think this brings very good value. Maybe one answer has a long and nitpicky explanation and another one has a clear-cut simple and short explanation... these will serve different users; or they use different styles or writing; or they focus on different cultures; or... :)– ANevesApr 10, 2020 at 18:21