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I know what it means in English, but I need to explain this next week to a group of Brazilian Portuguese speakers only and since I don't know how it's more commonly used in Brazil, perhaps someone here can help me. For instance, how do I put this into Brazilian Portuguese:

Pricing: 3P vs. 1P – deep understanding of pricing

  • Do by category
  • Where do the sites overlap, and where don’t they? When does price matter less? When more?
  • Will 1P cannibalize 3P?  Does it depend on category, How does a merchant decide?
  • How do they handle 3P delivery?

I don't need a literal translation. If you need to elaborate a bit into Portuguese to make the translation better, that will totally suffice the need.

  • I am so happy for you! I know things like In Q2 or Q4, but I have never seen this 3 P versus 1 P. How about you explain it? – Lambie May 7 '17 at 22:59
  • What do you mean? It's not really hard.. there's a google article on it.. let me grab it for you – Hugo May 7 '17 at 23:07
  • here: prospershow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/… but a lot of people are dealing with amazon when explaining/discussing this but simply disregard Amazon from the picture as it can be applied to any.. – Hugo May 7 '17 at 23:10
  • Valeu, veja abaixo. Acho que sim, há de traduzir o treco. :) – Lambie May 7 '17 at 23:38
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    I agree with Lambie: you should probably explain in your question the meaning of 1P and 3P. – ANeves May 8 '17 at 13:59
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1P can be translated as venda direta. It literally means "direct sale": a company selling directly to its consumers.

3P can be "translated" as Marketplace. I know, it's not in Portuguese, but it's the word being used by B2W (and other players) to describe a system where a third-party sells the product using another party's infrastructure:

O B2W Marketplace é uma plataforma que permite que você venda seus produtos nas vitrines da Americanas.com, Submarino e Shoptime. A B2W funciona como um mediador entre você e o cliente, oferecendo o tráfego mais qualificado da internet brasileira e a melhor experiência de compra.

Free translation: B2W Marketplace is a platform that allows you to sell your products at Americanas.com, Submarino and Shoptime. B2W works as a mediator between you and the client, offering the most qualified traffic of brazilian internet and the best shopping experience.


Notes:

  • In the corporate world (at least in Brazil) it's very common to use English words to describe something instead of trying to find a proper translation. And it seems to be the case with Marketplace - I believe that's because Amazon also uses this word and nobody could find a good translation to Portuguese.
  • I've also seen Programa de afiliados being used, by I think it works in a different way if compared to a Marketplace. And I think that Marketplace fits better to Amazon's definition.
  • I think it also depends on your audience (if the term is familiar to them). If it's not the case, you can use venda por terceiros (third party sales). Although I personally don't like it, I believe you'll be understood.
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    Thank you! And the explanation is excellent! The B2W example was perfect and nailed all my doubts, in fact it relates to my needs. Thank you Hugo! haha.. I never expected to replying to someone with my name on SE PT! :D Cheers! – Hugo May 8 '17 at 16:24
  • You're welcome! Indeed, for me it's unexpected to find someone with the same name - I've met only a few in my life; in this site I think you're the first one. – user1798 May 8 '17 at 16:38
  • No, 3 P is not marketplace. It means to be a third party vendor. Marketplace is not a translation into Portuguese anyway. Seria um erro tremendo chamar 3P um marketplace. The translation into Portuguese is: vender como terceira parte. Não é venda POR terceiros nesse caso: Eu posso vender a Amazon como Primeria Parte (se eu tiver um contrato com ela); ou posso vender como Vendedor de Terceria Parte (Amazon e seus clientes seriam a premeira e segundo parte) e eu um Vendedor de Terceira Parte. É sé ler o inglês bem. – Lambie May 8 '17 at 20:14
  • @Lambie I agree that "Marketplace" is not a literal translation per se and your answer is also correct. But I wrote my answer based on the link provided by the OP, and tried to come up with a word that could best translate the concept in this specific context ("Sell third-party to consumers through the Amazon marketplace" as stated in OP's link) instead of being too literal (so IMO both our answers are correct, I just took a different approach). I also considered that many players are using the same word for similar (if not the same) concept. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in my answer. – user1798 May 8 '17 at 21:14
  • One more thing: that's why I put "translated" in double quotes – user1798 May 8 '17 at 21:18
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Se traduz assim:

Vender como parte primeira, ou vender diretamente, venda direta (entre você como primeira parte e Amazon Retail como segunda parte). Fez-se da frase um VERBO: to sell first-party to Amazon Retail: vender COMO primeira-parte à Amazon Retail.

Vender como terceira parte, vender indiretamente, venda indireta (você vende para eles, eles vendem ao público, eles e o público têm um contrato, daí você seria um terceiro, seriam a primeira e segunda parte, e você a terceira parte).

Esse inglês, to sell third party to, não é muito bom. O bom inglês diria: to sell AS a first or second party. Com o as na frase.

Vender como parte terceira e vender como parte primeira: parte 1.ª e parte 3ª.

Só que falando, há que dizer primeira e terceira.

[[Olha, por causa da eleições na França, tomei uns copos de vinho e não sei se a minha resposta ficou clara. Espero que sim.]]

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